April 6, 2008
Woman Has A Baby With Her Own Father

A father and daughter couple in South Australia recently told the local media that they have birthed a baby girl named Celeste, who appears fit and healthy.

While I’m all for people being happy in their own relationships I can’t help but think that these two are being a little selfish and wreckless.

“I knew it was illegal, of course I knew it was illegal but you know, so what.” the father said.

These two had no way of knowing that the baby was going to turn out to be healthy. Imagine how horrible it would have been had the child come out deformed or with other serious health concerns. Did they even stop to question the potential trauma this poor little girl is going to have to grow up with and and deal with for the rest of her life? The name calling, the feeling of guilt from being a child of incest?

“I was looking at him, sort of going, oh, he’s not too bad,” she said. For Mr. Deaves the sexual relationship was “absolutely fantastic”.

If this how girls that look like her see guys that look like him, well, the lesson here is obvious. Never give up and never settle for dating your parents.

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  • birdbath says :

    I feel distinctly ‘queasy’ after reading that.

  • anomie says :

    I’m torn. On the one hand, I am also distinctly queasy after reading about this couple procreating. Hell, even the fact that they have sex just strikes me as ICKY ICKY WRONG!

    On the other hand, these arguments you’ve listed against it are making alarm bells of another kind go off in my head. There are a lot of people in this world with inheritable diseases and disorders. Is it irresponsible for them to procreate? What about poor people who barely have enough money to take care of themselves, let alone a child? Would it be selfish for them to have children? I’ve heard this same argument being made regarding mixed-race couples and gay couples (think of how terribly your child would be treated!!!).

    What these strange, strange, people are doing is revolting to most of us. Beyond the ick factor, they were playing worse odds than the average couple in the healthy child game. But so do the demographic groups I listed above.

    Fuck it all. Let’s sterilize everyone at puberty and make them go to classes and sign waivers to gain the privilege of parenthood.

    That’s not a bad idea, actually…

  • Richard Blakeley says :

    ANOMIE: I don’t think people should have kids under any circumstances but you bring up good points.

  • withoutscene says :

    I’m sort of with Anomie on this. This feels like concern for health as a cover for ewwwie ewwwie ick, why would you DOOOOOOO that. And concern for health is too often used as a cover these days because people think it’s innocuous…that people concerned for other people’s “health” surely only mean well. I actually think the risk is much less than commonly believed, but I don’t have references on that.

    I dare not be too culturally relativist, but if it is mutual and they are happy and well adjusted…well, why not? I’m personally not into fornicating and reproducing with my own father, but who am I to say someone else can’t?

  • Xorn Smith says :

    I think the thing that gets me is…what happened along the way in the development of the daughter that led her to the point where she decided it was a great idea to have sex with her father? And what was his role in her development?

    I just can’t see the circumstances under which a well-adjusted, responsible father agrees to fuck his daughter, adult or not. Why would a father *want* his daughter to have sex with him instead of pursuing a healthy relationship, uh, outside the family?

    All thinga aren’t quite equal since it was the father who got to shape the woman’s development…it’s not like the German brother and sister who were put up for separate adoption and then spontaneously met and fell in love.

    I try to avoid judgmentalness (word?), but I think this guy is a REALLY bad dad. And the daughter needs industrial strength therapy. Before you even get into the question of the health of the offsrping, there are a lot of problems with this situation.

  • Isil says :

    oh come.

    Look at them. You cant argue anything after a good long look at them.

  • Isil says :

    (oh come on. )

  • Richard Blakeley says :

    ISIL: They seem nice enough don’t they?

  • Richard Blakeley says :

    XORN: Apparently the were reunited after not seeing each other for years. I wonder what her mother/his ex wife has to say about it.

  • Isil says :

    Richard: You dig Lovecraft right?

  • Xorn Smith says :

    RICHARD: Yeah, I missed the part about them being separated for 30 years the first time around. Maybe that does relieve him of the burden of being responsible for whatever went wrong in her development, although the very fact of his absence/abandonment could’ve played a role.

    But they did *know* they were father and daughter from the get-go, once they were reunited. I still think the question stands: what kind of well-adjusted responsible father fucks his daughter, adult or otherwise? Who wants that for his daughter — not to mention his (other) daughter/granddaughter?

    ISIL: Who doesn’t dig Lovecraft?

  • Richard Blakeley says :

    XORN: “although the very fact of his absence/abandonment could’ve played a role” that was my first thought…

    ISIL: Lovecraft?

  • Isil says :

    This is daddy´s yearning for her daughter

  • Kate says :

    Turns out that this is their second child- their first child died a few days after birth due to congenital heart disease. I think that in this case, Richard’s argument about playing genetic Russian Roulette definitely applies.

    There was another story recently concerning incest- millionair Bruce McMahan married his daughter. Same story of estrangement, but still, totally wrong.

  • Lux Alptraum says :

    You know, I feel like it would be one thing if they’d fallen in love or whatever before finding out that they were an estranged father and daughter — but the fact that they knew they were father and daughter, and then decided to hook up… I just don’t know.

    I suppose it’s worth an examination of what, exactly, the incest taboo is all about.

  • Isil says :

    the fundation of humanity as we know it BWHWHahha

  • Jess says :

    ew ew ew ew. I’m a kinky bitch and I can understand a LOT of things but incest creeps me out.

  • The Scoot says :

    Genomics and genetics have come a long way from the days of the Deliverance dueling banjo boy. That being said, there are cultural mores for a reason. This child will have a stigma attached to her for the rest of her life.

    Indeed, the chances of her being able to find a person who will be able to understand and accept her past, let alone be introduced to her parents without incident… is highly unlikely.

    Incest is wrong not because the two committing the act are not consensual or equal, but rather because the child that would result from it has no voice in the matter at all.

    The world is twisted enough; do we really need to ADD problems for the ones who come after us?

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  • Richard Blakeley says :

    THE SCOOT: This is what I was trying to say, and you said it it better than I ever could have.

  • C.S. Lewiston says :

    Right you are, SCOOT. The daughter might *appear* to have no health problems *now*. How about 5, 10 or 20 years from now when some recessive genetic trait manifests itself? I understand that the royal families of Europe had health problems like hemophilia from being so heavily inbred.

  • Irene Kaoru says :

    IMHO even if there were no children from this union, the union would be wrong. Yes, wrong, immoral, bad, wrong. Why? Because the power dynamic between a father and a daughter is such that I would never consider such a union “consensual.” The man should be arrested, not smiling for the newspaper, and the young mother should probably go for a little psychotherapy, no?

  • Xorn Smith says :

    IRENE: Thanks for saying clearly and concisely what I was trying to get at in a long-winded way above. You’re exactly right: It’s the power dynamic that makes this wrong (and icky), before you even get to health/stigma question concerning the kid.

  • Amin says :

    in fact they all are realy mather, sister and daugther fucker. there is no image of family tree and no payment of reverence to humenitrain life

  • ymala1 says :

    @Irene: It’s interesting how you say the man should be arrested while the daughter should get psychiatric attention. . don’t get me wrong, I feel like the guy should be to blame too, but it just got me thinking, do I feel that way because he’s the father and therefore holds more responsibility for the situation, but then this was consensual, the daughter was an adult and they hadn’t seen each other for 30, which lends the ‘father shaped the daughter’s mental development’ less credit . . . dunno, just made me think.

  • steph says :

    All i have to say is…
    they are no longer together (thank-god). She is now with someone else. And no they are not related. (It was on our news in Australia a few months after they were interviewed =])

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